国境警備官(服役中)に対するブッシュの減刑措置(3) |
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以下は、前エントリに掲げた英文のうち、イザの10000字規制ではみ出した部分である。学生に現代アメリカの一面を教える上で、なかなかよい資料だと思うので掲げておく。
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HANNITY: You don't think this was excessive?
SUTTON: I mean, what — how do you explain this cover up? That was the most damning piece of evidence, Sean. Explain to the public why these guys, if this doper had a gun, why did they cover it up? We've cleared 20 agents out there...
HANNITY: I understand — I understand...
SUTTON: ... including four that...
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: I'm going to tell you something.
SUTTON: We do not prosecute agents for shooting people...
HANNITY: I understand.
SUTTON: ... that are causing them danger.
HANNITY: I understand.
SUTTON: The only...
HANNITY: I understand all your arguments. I've heard them again and again.
SUTTON: We don't do this. Look, I take no pleasure in prosecuting federal agents. We defend them every day. We prosecute the criminals that they arrest. We lead the nation in drug prosecution. We're the ones that started project...
HANNITY: You know something, though?
SUTTON: We're on their side.
HANNITY: Listen, listen. Let me get a point in here. You know, this is all well and good. But I'm going to tell you, it's really easy for everyone to sit here in the comfort of our television studio, your television studio, your D.A. office, and sit here and second-guess and judge the split-second decisions that police officers and law-enforcement officers have to make every day.
And let me tell you something. Here's a drug dealer. Here's a drug pusher. Here's a guy that was — wanted to poison our children. And you know something? He gets brought in to testify against — against our agents. You've got to see something wrong with that. You've got to tell me that something about that bothers you, because it certainly bothers me.
SUTTON: Yes. It bothers me that these agents committed crimes.
HANNITY: No, no. Does it bother you...
SUTTON: We would have had him in custody from the start.
HANNITY: ... that you're using, in part, the testimony of a drug pusher to convict agents and you're second-guessing them?
SUTTON: Remember, Sean, I did not pick the drug pusher to be the witness. Agents Compean and Ramos picked him to be to be the witness...
HANNITY: Doesn't matter.
SUTTON: ... when they shot him and they covered him up. No, I...
HANNITY: He's going into
SUTTON: Look, I get the cases as they come to me. Right, Sean. That's the witness. When you shoot a guy who's running away, you cover it up, you destroy the evidence and file a false report, that...
HANNITY: You're — you're passionate. You're convinced they did it. I'm not — I'm not a believer that — I don't...
SUTTON: It's not me, Sean. It's a jury.
HANNITY: Doesn't matter. You bought into this.
SUTTON: A jury convicted.
HANNITY: I understand that.
SUTTON: A court of appeals affirmed it. This is not something I made up.
HANNITY: In large part because of your passion and your belief and your ability to argue a case. I have a different point of view, and many other people do. And hope the president pardons them, to be honest with you.
SUTTON: Sean, my career prosecutors tried this case. I'm the leader of these career prosecutors. All I'm doing is trying to get the facts to the public.
HANNITY: All right, Johnny.
SUTTON: Read the transcript. Read the court of appeals.
HANNITY: I've read everything. We've been over this. I've read it.
SUTTON: If people read it they will understand why we prosecuted it.
HANNITY: But I appreciate. I appreciate it.
SUTTON: The jury, Sean, the jury rule of law. Remember that: the jury, rule of law.
HANNITY: I understand that, but you know what? Sometimes people can also be so persuasive that, you know what? Sometimes juries get it wrong. I think they did here. I think the O.J. jury got it wrong. Appreciate your time.
SUTTON: They rarely get it wrong. They rarely get it wrong.
HANNITY: Thanks for being with us.